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melon
Nekomancer
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 4649 Location: Neko-neko-land
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 Card Errata 5/5/2012
Greetings [true believers]
We are issuing a few errata today. All errata here will come into effect immediately (with TO discretion on upcoming tournaments.)
Blue indicates text added to the card.
Incentives: (Reason: Power/Intent) Now reads, "Target up to two non-opposing characters, ..."
Helm of Swiftness: (Reason: Intent) The Static text now reads, "An Assassin may spend before equipping Helm to equip it as a Level 6 item." (( removed 'rogue' from the item clause))
Bal-Benoth: (Reason: Intent) Now reads, "Bal-Benoth must kill a Thrall you control in order to enter play."
Mind over body: (Reason: Power-primarily in open format) Now reads, "Target non-Warlord character within 3 ranks must succeed with a Will save..."
The Sable Knight: (Reason: Power/Intent) Now reads, "Your Deverenian Warlord gains +3 to initiative rolls. React: Once per turn, after a Deverenian you control performs an order: You may perform a Decree."
Thunderclap Bracers (Reason: Power) The second Order now reads, "Order: Once per turn, discard a card: ..."
Pheonix Rising (Reason: Power) Pheonix Rising no longer has the text "May not be removed from the game."
Happy Gaming
~Design team & Rules team
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| Sat May 05, 2012 8:20 am |
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nilonka
Command Staff
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:00 pm Posts: 3258 Location: Usherhaus
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
ahhhh, those seem like good choices.
sad: Phoenix Rising happy: the rest
does that make Bal-benoth able to be reacted to?
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| Sat May 05, 2012 9:53 am |
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Oremm
Command Staff
Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:25 am Posts: 4750
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
No OPT restriction for Ghoststeel Gauntlets? Good stuffs on the rest. I too would love to know if this Bal-Benoth change means he can be reacted to, 'cuz that would be the awesomesauce.
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| Sat May 05, 2012 10:23 am |
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nilonka
Command Staff
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:00 pm Posts: 3258 Location: Usherhaus
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
ghoststeel gauntlets, while good, are not near-infinite like thunderclap.
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| Sat May 05, 2012 10:39 am |
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melon
Nekomancer
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 4649 Location: Neko-neko-land
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
The change to bal benoth means that he, the character, is killing a thrall. Previously the player had to kill a thrall. Many thralls say 'after a character you control' kills them, in which case, they could now be used with Bal benoth where as previously they could not.
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| Sat May 05, 2012 11:35 am |
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AragornRoR
Baron-Administrator Darth Crimson
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 25083 Location: San Diego, CA
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
Mmmkay. Seems reasonable. Sure.  Can we get some insight into what someone found as OP with this card? Because whatever it is I'm sure it was really fun!   This one's a bummer, but probably how it should be.  What's the deal with this one? Not that I'll ever get to play the card, but what was broken about not RFGing it?
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| Sat May 05, 2012 11:59 am |
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AragornRoR
Baron-Administrator Darth Crimson
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 25083 Location: San Diego, CA
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
But he still doesn't work with stuff that specifies they must be killed with ACTIONS, like Blood Cauldron, The Earth or Nin-Gula, right? Seems like if you're gonna make him work, why not make him work all the way?
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| Sat May 05, 2012 12:01 pm |
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nilonka
Command Staff
Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:00 pm Posts: 3258 Location: Usherhaus
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
I think they don't like bringing him in permenantly with one last time and then doing stupid things with him.
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| Sat May 05, 2012 12:35 pm |
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AragornRoR
Baron-Administrator Darth Crimson
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 25083 Location: San Diego, CA
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
Awesome. That was what I needed  Bummed I didn't get to try it.
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| Sat May 05, 2012 12:57 pm |
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Kyn
Writer
Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:35 pm Posts: 3900 Location: Bolingbrook, IL
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
If Bal Benoth does not use his react when entering play, remove him from the game. React: After entering play, kill a Thrall.
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| Sat May 05, 2012 1:32 pm |
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Woodrow
Inner Circle
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:40 pm Posts: 2405 Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
Eresh-nerf! Whyyyyyyyyyy?! 
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| Sat May 05, 2012 8:55 pm |
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AragornRoR
Baron-Administrator Darth Crimson
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 25083 Location: San Diego, CA
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
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| Sat May 05, 2012 9:33 pm |
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Iceman
Head of Insanity Division
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 3319 Location: Oak Park, IL
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
Expanded SpellIf the warlord fails the copied save, you gain control of him. Presto - you win.  |  |  |  | AragornRoR wrote: But he still doesn't work with stuff that specifies they must be killed with ACTIONS, like Blood Cauldron, The Earth or Nin-Gula, right? Seems like if you're gonna make him work, why not make him work all the way? |  |  |  |  |
Right. He is not performing an action. "All the way" first is a question of power and second is better addressed through the other cards, not through him. Suggestions like Kyn's (and most every other one I've seen or half-written myself) are just, well, ugly. I've talked to Tommy (and others, but mostly Tommy) about it and I have my doubts I'll get my way on this one.  -VIC
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| Sat May 05, 2012 10:13 pm |
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AragornRoR
Baron-Administrator Darth Crimson
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2002 5:00 pm Posts: 25083 Location: San Diego, CA
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
Fair enough. 
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| Sat May 05, 2012 11:19 pm |
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Assassination
Initiate
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:39 am Posts: 180 Location: Yuba City, California
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 Re: Card Errata 5/5/2012
I think Phoenix Rising should errata his React to OPT. All I'm saying is: Phoenix Rising + Flame Blade = Nuff said.
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