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Actions and Items? Please?

Postby Emerald Dawn on Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:24 am

I know that people love seeing the new characters coming in new sets, but can we get some love for actions and items? Look at Nargul's spoiler, there hasn't been much love in that regard at all (especially for Rogues).
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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby GreenDestiny on Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:45 am

Characters
Devs: 9 of 13 (69%)
Dwarves: 9 of 13 (69%)
Elves: 6 of 13 (46%)
Freeks: 5 of 13 (38%)
Nothrog: 5 of 13 (38%)
Chosen: 4 of 13 (31%)
Mercs: 6 of 14 (43%)
Total characters: 44 of 92 (48%)

Actions
Cleric: 3 of 9 (33%)
Fighter: 6 of 9 (66%)
Rogue: 1 of 9 (11%)
Wizard: 2 of 9 (22%)
Classless: 1 of 2 (50%)
Total Actions: 13 of 38 (34%)

Items
Cleric: 2 of 9 (22%)
Fighter: 1 of 9 (11%)
Rogue: 2 of 9 (22%)
Wizard: 1 of 9 (11%)
Classless: 0 of 2 (0%)
Total Items: 6 of 38 (16%)

Total Shattered Empires: 63 of 168 (37.5%)

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby Tokhuah on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:01 am

As my esteemed colleague shows in the chart, we probably have seen enough Deverenian, Dwarf, and Fighter Action foo for awhile and could use a bit more diversity.

@ Arne, something to consider:

It would be really nice to see the rest of the returning cards. This would allow the old guard to sift through their morass of retro cards to pull copies. Considering that we have to wait longer to get the cards (realistically early 2009) this will give people something to do and may reduce complaining… unless Cordeos comes back; then more complaining! ;)

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby Lord Jallemar on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:02 am

Tokhuah wrote:It would be really nice to see the rest of the returning cards. This would allow the old guard to sift through their morass of retro cards to pull copies. Considering that we have to wait longer to get the cards (realistically early 2009) this will give people something to do and may reduce complaining… unless Cordeos comes back; then more complaining! ;)

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby GreenDestiny on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:14 am

One interesting note that my number crunching produced: with only one rogue warlord there will be only one deck needed to purchase for rogue players, ditto for wizards.

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby melon on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:27 am

Cordeos is awesome =D

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby devlukelorian on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:41 am

GreenDestiny wrote:One interesting note that my number crunching produced: with only one rogue warlord there will be only one deck needed to purchase for rogue players, ditto for wizards.


though the logic is there, i still think that the dev deck, because of its high number of wizards and fighters, will have a few wizard spells. but rare wise i definately agree
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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby Zaxdad on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:56 am

GreenDestiny wrote:One interesting note that my number crunching produced: with only one rogue warlord there will be only one deck needed to purchase for rogue players, ditto for wizards.

Not entirely true, though. Classless actions and items, other rogue characters, etc... they might not all show up in the Rogue deck.
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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby Hedge on Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:08 am

devlukelorian wrote:
GreenDestiny wrote:One interesting note that my number crunching produced: with only one rogue warlord there will be only one deck needed to purchase for rogue players, ditto for wizards.


though the logic is there, i still think that the dev deck, because of its high number of wizards and fighters, will have a few wizard spells. but rare wise i definately agree


Bu tthe Numbers do not support that. If Arne follows the same pattern as he did in the Base Set.

3 rare action per class
3 Rare item per class
5 Rare character per Faction(including the Warlord.)


11 rares for a deck, that's one over what they would get, also the Merc Warlord is in with the Chosen so that deck is down two rare items and actions.


When you add it all together

12 Rare Actions
12 Rare Items
35 Rare character
1 Additional Rare Merc character as they have one more character than everbody else.

60 Rares total, 10 per deck. I figure the lover level rare will go into a deck that has a chance for it to see play. It is possible for the extras to be in the other Deck from the Same APS, But we will have to wait and see.

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby Tokhuah on Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:21 pm

melon wrote:Cordeos is awesome =D


Since this comment comes from a member of the Design team I am going to assume that Cordeos is back, with 2 HP, and possibly the Undead Sailor trait!

The last part might make him unbalanced so maybe a 3rd hit point instead... ;)

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby Lord Jallemar on Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:47 pm

Tokhuah wrote:
melon wrote:Cordeos is awesome =D


Since this comment comes from a member of the Design team I am going to assume that Cordeos is back, with 2 HP, and possibly the Undead Sailor trait!

The last part might make him unbalanced so maybe a 3rd hit point instead... ;)

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby GreenDestiny on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:00 am

Characters
Devs: 9 of 13 (69%)
Dwarves: 9 of 13 (69%)
Elves: 8 of 13 (62%)
Freeks: 5 of 13 (38%)
Nothrog: 5 of 13 (38%)
Chosen: 4 of 13 (31%)
Mercs: 6 of 14 (43%)
Total characters: 46 of 92 (50%)

Actions
Cleric: 5 of 9 (55%)
Fighter: 6 of 9 (66%)
Rogue: 6 of 9 (66%)
Wizard: 6 of 9 (66%)
Classless: 1 of 2 (50%)
Total Actions: 24 of 38 (63%)

Items
Cleric: 4 of 9 (44%)
Fighter: 4 of 9 (44%)
Rogue: 4 of 9 (44%)
Wizard: 2 of 8 (25%)
Classless: 1 of 3 (33%)
Total Items: 15 of 38 (39%)

Total Shattered Empires: 85 of 168 (51%)

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby EsoMonty on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:29 am

Lets see some Freeks!
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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby AragornRoR on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:48 am

EsoMonty wrote:Lets see some Freeks!

Here ya go!

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Re: Actions and Items? Please?

Postby Arven on Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:57 am

EsoMonty wrote:Lets see some Freeks!


Ouch, you really giving assists, don't you?

Here's a Freek:

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